portia wrote:
Why oh why didn't they have more imagination with names?
Says the mother of John Leaver
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 20; Page: 34; Nicholas Row, Burnley James Leaver, Head, Mar, 29yrs, Licensed Hawker Tea & Coffee, b. Briercliffe Zillah Leaver, Wife, Mar, 28yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Mary Ellen Leaver, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Accrington Thos. Leaver, Son, 6yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Zillah Leaver, Daughter, 6 months, b. Burnley 1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 117; Page: 24 125 Abel street, Burnley Zilla Leaver, Head, Widow, 37yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lane Head, Lancs Mary Ellen Leaver, Daughter, Unm, 18yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Accrington Thomas Leaver, Son, Unm, 17yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Zilla Leaver, Daughter, 11yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Sussanah Leaver, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley 1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4148; Folio: 171; Page: 32 43 Brennand street, Burnley Benjamin Eastwood, Head, Mar, 28yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Mary C. Eastwood, Wife, 28yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley James Eastwood, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Sarah Eastwood, Daughter, 6yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Thomas Eastwood, Son, 4yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley John Eastwood, Son, 1yrs, b. Burnley Zillah Leaver, Boarder, 20yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Susannah Leaver, Boarder, 17yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER - Zillah Leaver |
Deaths Sept 1878 LEAVER, Zillah (46yrs) Burnley, 8e – 207 Births Dec 1860 LEAVER Zillah – Burnley, 8e, 156 Marriages Sept 1881 LEAVER Zillah – Burnley, 8e, 409 Zillah LEAVER married Miles Thomas HARDCASTLE at Burnley Register Office Marriages Dec 1881 LEAVER Susannah – Burnley, 8e, 469 Susannah LEAVER married Jeremiah ROBINSON at Burnley Register Office |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER - Zillah Leaver |
1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 41; Page 5 249 Briercliffe Road, Burnley Miles Thomas Hardcastle, Head, Married, 31yrs, Hair Dresser, b. Burnley Aquillah? Hardcastle, Wife, Mar, 30yrs, b. Burnley Herbert Hardcastle, Son, 4yrs, b. Burnley Susanah Robinson, Sister in law, Widow, 27yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Aquillah? Robinson, Daughter, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Sarah Robinson, Daughter, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... castle.htm 1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 41; Page 5 247 Briercliffe Road, Burnley William Henry Hardcastle, Head, Mar, 27yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Margaret Ann Hardcastle, Wife, Mar, 25yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley William Hardcastle, Son, 6yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley John Hardcastle, Son, 4yrs, b. Burnley Harry Hardcastle, Son, 2yrs, b. Burnley http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... castle.htm 1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 41; Page 6 251 Briercliffe Road, Burnley Henry Hardcastle, Head, Mar, 54yrs, living on his ?, b. Burnley Susan Hardcastle, Wife, Mar, 52yrs, b. Todmorden, Yorkshire Susanah Hardcastle, Daughter, Single, 24yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Nancy Alice Hardcastle, Daughter, 21yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Emily Hardcastle, Daughter, 18yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Clara Hardcastle, Daughter, 16yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Annie Hardcastle, Daughter, 14yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Walter Clegg Hardcastle, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Harry Hardcastle, Son, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Hardcastle grave at Haggate http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... ersall.htm |
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| Author: | portia [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER - Zillah Leaver |
I think this may be the wife: HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 581; Page: 1 Ellen Berry 44 George Berry 3 Grimshaw Berry 8 Thomas Berry 41 Thomas Berry 10 Zilla Berry 18 Can't get any more informatin as Ancestry literally just went off. Lancashire bmd Marriages 1852 LEVER James BERRY Priscilla Clitheroe, St Mary Magdalene records at Preston C3/2/135 1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 37; Page: 17; Line: 23 Burnley Lane Head, Burnley Thomas Berry, 32yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Ellen Berry, 33yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Susannah Berry, 10yrs, b. Lancs Zella Berry, 8yrs, b. Lancs Thomas Berry, 7 months, b. Lancs 1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 581; Page: 1 New Ground Top, Whalley, Burnley Thomas Berry, Head, Mar, 41yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Ellen Berry, Wife, Mar, 44yrs, b. New Church Zilla Berry, Daughter, Unm, 18yrs, , Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Thomas Berry, Son, 10yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Grimshaw Berry, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley George Berry, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER - Zillah Leaver |
Maureen, a few months back I purchased some death ribbons for Haggate. Amongst the lot were these names. Priscilla Fell http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... 20Fell.htm James Procter http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... rocter.htm William Henry Hardcastle http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... castle.htm Henry Hardcastle http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... castle.htm Nanny Berry http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... 0Berry.htm The Hardcastle’s are living at 247 and 251 Briercliffe Road, and our Zillah is at 249 Briercliffe road. These ribbons probably relate to the same family so this Berry connection is a coincidence. |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER - Zillah Leaver |
1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3883; Folio: 123; Page: 34 30 Livingstone Street, Brierfield Miles T. Hardcastle, Head, Mar, 41yrs, Hairdresser, b. Burnley Zillah Hardcastle, Wife, Mar, 40yrs, b. Burnley Herbert Hardcastle, Son, 14yrs, Hairdresser Apprentice, b. Burnley Susannah Hardcastle, Daughter, 10yrs, b. Burnley 1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 51; Page: 5 Reedly Lodge, Burnley Henry Hardcastle, Head, Mar, 34yrs, Miner, b. Burnley Susan Hardcastle, Wife, Mar, 32yrs, Drefsmaker, b. Leeds Sarah E.? Hardcastle, Daughter, 13yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Miles T. Hardcastle, Son, 11yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Mary A. Hardcastle, Daughter, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley William H? Hardcastle, Son, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Susannah Hardcastle, Daughter, 4yrs, b. Burnley Mary A. Hardcastle, Daughter, 1yr, b. Burnley |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER - Zillah Leaver |
portia wrote: I think this may be the wife: HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 581; Page: 1 Ellen Berry 44 George Berry 3 Grimshaw Berry 8 Thomas Berry 41 Thomas Berry 10 Zilla Berry 18 Can't get any more informatin as Ancestry literally just went off. Lancashire bmd Marriages 1852 LEVER James BERRY Priscilla Clitheroe, St Mary Magdalene records at Preston C3/2/135 1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 37; Page: 17; Line: 23 Burnley Lane Head, Burnley Thomas Berry, 32yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Ellen Berry, 33yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Susannah Berry, 10yrs, b. Lancs Zella Berry, 8yrs, b. Lancs Thomas Berry, 7 months, b. Lancs 1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 581; Page: 1 New Ground Top, Whalley, Burnley Thomas Berry, Head, Mar, 41yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Ellen Berry, Wife, Mar, 44yrs, b. New Church Zilla Berry, Daughter, Unm, 18yrs, , Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Thomas Berry, Son, 10yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Grimshaw Berry, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley George Berry, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley Maureen, the Berry and Leaver family were living next door to each other in the 1861 census 1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 20; Page: 34 Nicholas Row, Burnley Thomas Berry, Head, Mar, 52yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Ellen Berry, Wife, Mar, 54yrs, House Keeper, b. Pendle Grimshaw Berry, Son, 17yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley George Berry, Son, 13yrs, b. Burnley Next House 1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 20; Page: 34; Nicholas Row, Burnley James Leaver, Head, Mar, 29yrs, Licensed Hawker Tea & Coffee, b. Briercliffe Zillah Leaver, Wife, Mar, 28yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Burnley Mary Ellen Leaver, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Accrington Thos. Leaver, Son, 6yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Zillah Leaver, Daughter, 6 months, b. Burnley 1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 114; Page: 18 77 Abel street, Burnley George Berry, Head, Mar, 23yrs, Warehouse Man, b. Burnley Alice Berry, Wife, Mar, 24yrs, Warehouse Wife, b. Briercliffe 1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 114; Page: 18 79 Abel street, Burnley Thomas Berry, Head, Mar, 62yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lane Head Jane Berry, Wife, 46yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Holton West Yorkshire Grimshaw Berry, Son, Unm, 27yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lane Head Nanny Berry, Sister, Mar, 26yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Lane Head 1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4149; Folio: 82; Page: 27 37 Ardwick road, Burnley Grimshaw Berry, Head, Mar, 37yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Nanny Berry, Wife, Mar, 38yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Thomas Berry, Lodger, Mar, 72yrs, b. Burnley Thomas F. Berry, Lodger, ?, 40yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Martha Berry, Daughter, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley Nanny Berry http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... 0Berry.htm 1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 42; Page 8 No. 1 No name to street, Burnley Grimshaw Berry, Head, Mar, 47yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Nanny Berry, Wife, 46yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Martha Ann Berry, Adopted, 15yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
This might be Zillah’s father James Leaver 1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 567; Page: 17 Lane Head, Burnley (St. James, Briercliffe) John Spencer, Head, Mar, 35yrs, Beamer & Twister, b. Briercliffe Mary Spencer, Wife, Mar, 35yrs, attends house, b. Burnley Elizh Spencer, Daughter, 13yrs, Twister, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, Daughter, 10yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley James Spencer, Son, 8yrs, At home, b. Burnley Tho. Spencer, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley Wm. Spencer, 10 months, b. Burnley James Leaver, Lodger, Unm, 19yrs, P Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe James Nutter, Lodger, Unm, 20yrs, P Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
We're running out of Briercliffe Jameses. The only unattached one I can find is son of John Leaver & Ann Catlow, but we have his date of birth as 1827, not 1832. If the date of birth came from the 1841 census then that might be the answer. Am I missing any other candidates? Maybe I just need to get his marriage cert. Being mean I want to rule out other known possibilities before I do. |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
Leaver wrote: This might be Zillah’s father James Leaver 1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 567; Page: 17 Lane Head, Burnley (St. James, Briercliffe) John Spencer, Head, Mar, 35yrs, Beamer & Twister, b. Briercliffe Mary Spencer, Wife, Mar, 35yrs, attends house, b. Burnley Elizh Spencer, Daughter, 13yrs, Twister, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, Daughter, 10yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley James Spencer, Son, 8yrs, At home, b. Burnley Tho. Spencer, Son, 3yrs, b. Burnley Wm. Spencer, 10 months, b. Burnley James Leaver, Lodger, Unm, 19yrs, P Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe James Nutter, Lodger, Unm, 20yrs, P Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe 1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 21; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 9; Folio: 34; Page: 9; Line: 11 Cop Row, Burnley John Spencer, 25yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Margaret Spencer, 24yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Elizabeth Spencer, 4yrs, b. Lancs John Spencer, 3yrs, b. Lancs Mary Spencer, 1yr, b. Lancs James Emmott, 30yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs James Walton, 20yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs James Leaver, 10yrs, b. Lancs 1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3068; Folio: 81; Page: 10 Higher Rake Head, Burnley John Spencer, Head, Mar, 46yrs, Cotton Loom Weaver, b. Burnley Margaret Spencer, Wife, 43yrs, House Keeper, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, Daughter, 21yrs, Cotton Powerloom Weaver, b. Burnley James Spencer, Son, 18yrs, Twister in Cotton Factory, b. Burnley Thomas Spencer, Son, 12yrs, Twister in cotton factory (half time), b. Burnley Nanny Spencer, Daughter, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley William Spencer, Son, 6yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley 1871 Census - RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 61; Page: 5 Rake Head, Burnley John Spencer, Head, Mar, 55yrs, Cotton Beamer Twister, b. Burnley Margaret Spencer, Wife, 54yrs, House Keeper, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, Daughter, 30yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley James Spencer, Son, 27yrs, Cotton Beamer & Twister, b. Burnley Nancy Spencer, Daughter, 18yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley 1881 Census - RG11; Piece: 4152; Folio: 128; Page: 23 6 Dale Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley John Spencer, Head, Mar, 64yrs, Twister, b. Burnley Margaret Spencer, Wife, Mar, 63yrs, Housewife, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, Daughter, Unm, 43yrs, Weaver, b. Burnley James Spencer, Son, 38yrs, Manufacturer, b. Burnley John Starkie, Boarder, 19yrs, Twister, b. Marsden 1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3369; Folio 91; Page 34 6 Dale Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley John Spencer, Head, 75yrs, b. Burnley Margaret Spencer, Wife, Mar, 74yrs, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, Daughter, 50yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley John Sagar, Grandchild, 3yrs, b. Blackburn 1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3874; Folio: 101; Page: 30 6 Dale Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley Margaret Spencer, Head, Widow, 84yrs, b. Burnley Alice Spencer, G. Daughter, 20yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Mary Spencer, G. Daughter, 18yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley John W? Spencer, G. Son, 17yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
I missed that one - I don't even have him on the tree as a loose end. He isn't the same 1831 James as the one who was son of John Leaver and Ann Catlow as that James is on the 1841 census with is parents. so we have 2. Why oh why didn't they have more imagination with names? Anyway I'm going to send for James & Zillah/ Priscilla's marriage cert and hope his father's name's on it. |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
portia wrote: Why oh why didn't they have more imagination with names? Says the mother of John Leaver
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
I just thought - it's even worse than you think. His dad calls him Jimmy. Don't ask why, I can't remember. |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: LEAVER and HARDCASTLE - Zillah Leaver |
I think Miles Thomas Hardcastle and Walter Hardcastle are Brothers. 1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3866; Folio: 36; Page: 8 222 Briercliffe Road, Burnley (St. Andrew’s) Walter Hardcastle, Head, Mar, 19yrs, Cotton Twister, b. Burnley Elizabeth Hardcastle, Wife, Mar, 18yrs, b. Nelson Marriages Dec 1900 LEAVER Elizabeth – Burnley, 8e, 428 HARDCASTLE Walter – Burnley, 8e, 428 1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 46; Page 15 188 Briercliffe Road, Burnley James Leaver, Head, Mar, 32yrs, Stone Quarryman, b. Burnley Mary Jane Leaver, Wife, 31yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Annie Leaver, Daughter, Single, 13yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Brierfield Mary Leaver, Daughter, 11yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Brierfield Susannah Leaver, Daughter, 10yrs, Cotton Winder, b, Brierfield Elizabeth Leaver, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Brierfield Thomas Leaver, Son, 7yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley James Leaver, Son, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley 1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3868; Folio: 68; Page: 48 11 Kimberley Street, Briercliffe James Leaver, Head, Widr, 42yrs, Grave Digger, Outdoor Labourer, b. Little Marsden Mary Leaver, Daughter, Spinster, 21yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Little Marsden Susannah Leaver, Daughter, Spinster, 20yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Little Marsden Thomas Leaver, Son, 17yrs, Warehouse, Cotton Mill, b. Burnley James Leaver, Son, 15yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Maggie Leaver, Daughter, 9yrs, b. Burnley |
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