More than likely to be their grave, especially when she is a widow in 1861.
Loose ends, I have more loose ends than soft mick
, every line ends in one.
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| Author: | Mel [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Rawson - thoughts please |
I'm looking at a Rawson family in Briercliffe. Susannah Rawson married Robert Barker, I'm looking for where she was before marriage. This is her in 1861 1861 RG9/3073 folio 84 pg 18 Cockden, Briercliffe Robert Barker, Head, M, 42, Farmer of 41 acres employing 1 man, b.Briercliffe Susannah Barker, Wife, M, 21, Housemaid, b.Briercliffe I'm almost certain that this would be her in 1851 but then, when looking at 1841, Mary appears to be missing? 1851 HO107/2251 folio 116 pg 38 Smith Row, Briercliffe John Rawson, Head, M, 40, Ag Lab, b.Briercliffe Mary, wife, 42, b.Worsthorne Elizabeth, dau, 16, Power loom weaver, b.Briercliffe Mary, dau, 14, Power loom weaver, b.Briercliffe Susanah, dau, 11, scholar, b.Briercliffe Nanny, dau, 7, Errand girl, b.Briercliffe Abraham, son, 5, b.Briercliffe Clare? dau, 2, b.Briercliffe 1841 HO107/506/15 folio 31 pg 16 Blackhouse Lane, Briercliffe John Rawson, 30, weaver, b.Y Marey, 32, b.Y Elizabeth,6, b.Y Susanah, 5, b.Y Do you think I am barking up the wrong tree? |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
No I think you are right,but I have had a good look for her and cannot see her. There is one Mary Rawson living at Pighole Mill who is about the right age, and it isn't miles away, but she does appear to belong to the family there. At grandparents possibly? What was the mother's (Mary) maiden name? |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
Could they have got her age wrong in the 1851, and therefore she wasn't even born when the 1841 census was taken. There is a Mary Rawson born Dec qtr 1841--could this be her???? Just thinking aloud. |
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| Author: | Mel [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
I don't know mothers maiden name. I haven't yet looked for the marriage. What has me thinking is that Susannah wasn't all that old in 1851 to get the age so wrong? Or is 1841 wrong? Did they round her age up in 1841 in the same way as they do the adults even though under 15's should show their actual age? Also Gloria, your theory is something else I have considered. |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
I have found ages rounded both up and down in the 1841 including children. There is a Susannah born 1840 Burnley which would tie in with the other censuses. That doesn't help with Mary though. Have you seen this one in 1861, could be the same family, that would make her born after 1841. Name Age James Hindle 24 Jane Hindle 23 William Hindle 11 Mo Furgus Rawson 15 John Rawson 58 Mary Rawson 57 Mary Rawson 19 John Turner 40 |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
Oooops just found the above family in 1851 so it's not them. |
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| Author: | Mel [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
It's Susannah I am interested in mostly. I'm not convinced by this 1841 result though. I can't believe they would round a 1 year old up to 5. |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
I have just had a walk through the 1861 census where Susannah is living in Cockden with hubby, two pages further on is her mother as a widow. |
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| Author: | Mel [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
I wonder if this is John and Mary's grave? http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... kinson.htm |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
There are two births which could be her, have you sent for the cert? Susannah Rawson 1838 Apr-May-Jun Burnley Lancashire Susannah Rawson 1840 Jan-Feb-Mar Burnley Lancashire Either one wouldn't make her 5yo in 1841, but either could be rounded up. I think the 1841 needs to be looked at with a bit of imagination. |
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| Author: | Mel [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
No, it's not actually something I would send for - I'm tying up loose ends. |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
More than likely to be their grave, especially when she is a widow in 1861. Loose ends, I have more loose ends than soft mick , every line ends in one.
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| Author: | Burnleymasher [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
Who's soft Mick?  Stephanie. |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
Have you never heard the term? Don't know it's origins but no doubt someone will. |
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| Author: | Julie in Norfolk [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rawson - thoughts please |
Yup, a soft mick acknowledger sitting here. At home there were all sorts of things that we had more of than soft mick had. Generally not the things that you wanted though. |
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