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| Author: | Leaver [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Proctor / Procter |
1901 RG13; Piece: 3866; Folio: 44; Page: 23. 5 Reedley St Briercliffe Edward Procter, head, marr, 31 yrs, power loom overlooker, born Burnley Mary Procter, wife, marr, 30 yrs, born Brierfield Edward Procter, son, 5yrs, born Burnley Benjamin Procter, son, 2yrs, Born Burnley 1891 RG12; Piece: 3372; Folio 104; Page 19 Haulgh Head, Reedley Hallows Thomas Proctor, head, marr, 68 yrs, farmer, born Burnley Ellen Proctor, wife, marr, 59 yrs, born Burnley Thomas Proctor, son, single, 26 yrs, farmer’s assistant, born Burnley Edward Proctor, nephew, 21 yrs, weaver, born Burnley 1891 RG12; Piece: 3380; Folio 5; Page 3 3 Marsden Rd Little Marsden Benjamin Chadwick, head, marr, 59, collier, born Brierfield Jane Chadwick, wife, marr, 54, housewife, born Brierfield Elizabeth Hartley, daur, single, 28, weaver, born Brierfield John Thomas Chadwick, son, single, 25, brickmaker, born Brierfield William Chadwick, son, single, 24, weaver, born Brierfield Benjamin Chadwick, son, single, 22, weaver, born Brierfield Mary Chadwick, daur, single, 20, weaver, born Brierfield Mark Chadwick, son, single, 17, weaver, born Brierfield Susahanah Chadwick, daur, 15, weaver, born Brierfield Harry Chadwick, son, 13, weaver, born Brierfield Martha J Hartley, g’daur, 2, born Brierfield 1881 RG11; Piece: 4148; Folio: 122; Page: 4 Spout House, Burnley Susan Proctor, head, widow, 85yrs, farmer of 30 acres, born Burnley Edward Proctor, head, marr, 57 yrs, stone quarryman born Burnley Betty Proctor, wife, marr, 53 yrs, born Burnley John Proctor, son, unm, 18 yrs, stone mason, born Burnley Edward Proctor, son, 11yrs, weaver, born Burnley 1871 RG10; Piece: 4148; Folio: 49; Page: 2 Spout House, Burnley Susan Proctor, head, widow, 76yrs, farmer employing 2 men, born Reedley Hollows Thomas Bulcock, servant, unm, 34 yrs, farm servant, born Skipton, Yorks Edward Proctor, head, marr, 46 yrs, farm servant, born Burnley Betsy Proctor, wife, marr, 43 yrs, born Briercliffe Thomas Proctor, son, 15yrs, carter, born Burnley John Proctor, son, 8 yrs, scholar, born Burnley Edward Proctor, 1yr, born Burnley 1861 RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 6; Page: 6 Spout House, Burnley Susan Proctor, head, widow, 65yrs, farmer of 33 acres employing 1 man, born Burnley Thomas Proctor, head, marr, 39yrs, agricultural labourer, born Burnley Margaret Proctor, wife, marr, 39 yrs, power loom weaver, born Extwistle Edward Proctor, head, marr, 37 yrs, quarryman, born Burnley Betty Proctor, wife, marr, 33yrs, cotton powerloom weaver, born Extwistle Thomas Proctor, son, 5yrs, Burnley 1851 HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 584; Page: 6 Spout House, Burnley Susan Proctor, head, widow, 55yrs, farmer of 15 acres employing 2 labourers, born Reedley Hollows John Proctor, son, unm, 35yrs, farmer’s son, born Burnley Edward Proctor, son, unm, 26 yrs, farmer’s son, born Burnley Precella Proctor, daur, unm, 19yrs, farmer’s daughter, born Burnley Thomas Proctor, head, marr, 29yrs, wggoner, born Burnley Margaret Proctor, wife, marr, 28 yrs, born Marsden John Proctor, son, 2yrs, born Burnley 1841 HO107; Piece 506; Book: 22; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 6; Page: 5 Spout House, Burnley (All of these are transcribed on Ancestry as ‘Preston’) William Proctor, 60, weaver, born Lancashire George Shaw, 61, weaver, born Lancashire William Proctor, 21, labourer, born Lancashire, Sarah Proctor, 21, born Lancashire John Proctor, 4, born Lancashire Susan Proctor, 1, born Lancashire Edwards Proctor, 15, born Lancashire Mary Proctor 10, born Lancashire Pricila Proctor, 5, born Lancashire Susan Proctor, 40, farmer, born Lancashire, Thomas Proctor, 15, born Lancashire, |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | proctor/ chadwick censuses |
On the above censuses, the mary & edward proctor (1901) are the mary Chadwick & Edward Proctor in the 1891 censuses. Priscilla Proctor married the Thomas Heap (b 19/4/1829) on the Heap tree under family trees. |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:28 pm ] |
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Do you know when Edward Procter, Betty Leaver and Polly Proctor died? |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:44 pm ] |
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I haven't found a death yet for any of the Edwards, apart from the very youngest who died at Dardanelles - 16/11/1915. I think I've got a death date for Betty Leaver/ Proctor, I'll look it up. As for Mary (k/a Polly), Ben remembers going to see her with his dad when he was a young boy - probably in the early 50s. So he guesses she died around the mid 1950s. I haven't found a death for her either. |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:17 pm ] |
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I can't find Edward (b 1824) or Betty on the censuses after 1881, nor have I found a death yet for Edward. I did find a possible death for Betty in 1881, aged 54. Lancashire bmd - the register number is BU/92/20 |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
Re: http://www.briercliffesociety.co.uk/Gra ... rocter.htm 1901 Census - RG13; Piece: 3866; Folio: 57; Page: 8 29 Townley street, Burnley (St. Andrew’s) James H. Procter, Head, Mar, 32yrs, Cotton Loom Overlooker, b. Burnley Sarah Procter, Mar, 29yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Burnley James Procter, Son, 10yrs, b. Burnley Margaret A. Procter, Daughter, 8yrs, b. Burnley Fred Procter, Son, 5yrs, b. Burnley Florence Procter, Daughter, 4yrs, b. Burnley 1891 Census - RG12; Piece: 3362; Folio 48; Page 20 No 2 Delph Square, Burnley James Henry Procter, Head, Mar, 22yrs, Cotton Weaver, b. Burnley Sarah Procter, Wife, Mar, 19yrs, Cotton Winder, b. Burnley James Procter, Son, 7 months, b. Burnley Marriages June 1889 HEYS Sarah – Burnley, 8e 277 PROCTER James Henry - Burnley, 8e 277 St. James Briercliffe |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
This has been transcribed as Vooctor 1851 Census - HO107; Piece: 2251; Folio: 104; Page: 14 Haggate, Briercliffe John Proctor, Head, Mar, 46yrs, Fire Beater at Factory, b. Briercliffe Alice Proctor, Wife, Mar, 46yrs, b. Briercliffe Ann Proctor, Daughter, Unm, 20yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe Henry Proctor, Son, 17yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe Ellen Proctor, Daughter, 16yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe Sarah Proctor, Daughter, 14yrs, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, b. Briercliffe James Proctor, Son, 11yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe Mary Proctor, Daughter, 8yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe |
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| Author: | portia [ Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
Baptism: 1 Oct 1809 St Bartholomew, Colne, Lancashire, England Henry Proctor - Son of John Proctor & Betty Born: 30 Oct 1808 Abode: Dimpenly Occupation: Weaver Register: Baptisms 1790 - 1812, Page 266, Entry 14 Source: LDS Film 1471024 |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
Maureen, I have Betty Procter as the daughter of John Leaver (1794) and Ann Catlow (1796), but I am wonder if this is wrong because John Leaver was a gamekeeper in the 1851 & 1861 census. The marriage below says Betty Leaver’s father was a farmer. 1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 6; Page: 6 Spout House, Briercliffe (St. James) Edward Procter, Head, Mar, 37yrs, Quarry Man, b. Burnley Betty Procter, Wife, Mar, 33yrs, Power Loom Cotton Weaver, b. Extwistle Thos. Procter, Son, 5yrs, Scholar, b. Burnley When – 26 June 1854 Where – The Register Office, Burnley Groom – Edward Procter, 30 yrs, bachelor, labourer of Lane Head Burnley Bride – Betty Leaver, 26yrs, spinster, weaver of Lane Head Burnley Grooms father – Edward Procter, farmer Brides father – John Leaver, farmer Witnesses – Joseph Woabank and the mark (x) of Thomas Heap 1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3069; Folio: 6; Page: 6 Spout House, Briercliffe (St. James) Susan Procter, Head, Widow, 65yrs, Farmer of 33 acres employing 1 man, b. Burnley Thomas Procter, Head, Mar, 39yrs, Ag Lab, b. Burnley Margt. Procter, Wife, Mar, 39yrs, Power Loom Cotton Weaver, b. Extwistle |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
And then we have these two. When - 28th January 1850 Where - The Register Office, Burnley Groom - Thomas Procter, 27, Bachelor, Carter of Spout Houses, Burnley Bride - Margaret Leaver, 27, Spinster, Weaver of Near (?) Bank Extwistle Grooms father - Edmund Procter, Farmer Brides father - John Leaver, Farmer Witnesses - John Martha, his mark X, Elizabeth Leaver, her mark X When – 9 July 1849 Where – Church of Briercliffe Groom – John Leaver, aged full, weaver of Haggate Bride – Betty Proctor, aged full, weaver of Haggate Grooms father – John Leaver, weaver Brides father – John Proctor, Engineer Witnesses – John Simpson and Betty Simpson |
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| Author: | portia [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
Need some time to get my head round this one. |
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| Author: | Leaver [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
This is the only John Leaver who I can find about the right age and a farmer. 1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Whalley; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 26; Folio: 31; Page: 16; Line: 12 Batty Hole, Briercliffe with Extwistle John Leaver, 39yrs, Farmer, b. Lancashire Sarah Leaver, 40yrs, b. Lancashire Hanah Leaver, 13yrs, b. Lancashire John Leaver, 10yrs, b. Lancashire Olive Leaver, 4yrs, b. Lancashire 1851 Census HO 107 / 2251 Blackhouse Lane, Briercliffe, St. James John Leaver, Head, Married, 49yrs, Farmer 7? Acres Land, b. Briercliffe Sarah Leaver, Wife, Married, 50yrs, Wife, b. Briercliffe Hanah Leaver, Daughter, Unm, 22, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe John Leaver, Son, Unm, 19yrs, Quarryman, b. Briercliffe Olive Leaver, Daughter, 13yrs, Hand Loom Weaver, b. Briercliffe Bannister Leaver, Son, 9yrs, Scholar, b. Briercliffe Richard Thomas, Lodger, Unm, 41yrs, Labourer, b. Briercliffe 1861 Census - RG9; Piece: 3073; Folio: 100; Page: 12 Blackhouse Lane, Briercliffe John Leaver, Head, Mar, 59 years, Farmer, b. Briercliffe Sarah Leaver, Wife, Mar, 60 years, b. Briercliffe John Leaver, Son, Unm, 29 years, Quarryman, b. Briercliffe Richard Thomas, Lodger, Unm, 52 years, Labourer, b. Briercliffe There is another Betty Leaver (b. 1828), daughter of John Leaver (1806) and Mary Jackson. Betty Leaver is the right age, although the 1841 census is usually out, but I cannot find this family in 1851. Incidentally, Betty’s Brother John Leaver (1826) married Betty Proctor (1829), but according to that marriage his father was a weaver. 1841 Census - HO107; Piece 506; Book: 15 Haggate, Briercliffe John Leaver, 35yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Mary Leaver, 32yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Nanny Leaver, 15yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs John Leaver, 15yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Betty Leaver, 13yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs Wm Leaver, 10?yrs, Weaver, b. Lancs When – 9 July 1849 Where – Church of Briercliffe Groom – John Leaver, aged full, weaver of Haggate Bride – Betty Proctor, aged full, weaver of Haggate Grooms father – John Leaver, weaver Brides father – John Proctor, Engineer Witnesses – John Simpson and Betty Simpson |
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| Author: | portia [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
Kris, do you have the actual certificate for the Margaret Proctor/ Thomas Leaver marraige? If so, could the bride's address be Northbank? |
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| Author: | portia [ Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
Sorting through all these Proctor/ Leaver marriages (& found another in the process). I make Margaret Leaver, who married Thomas Proctor, the daughter of John Leaver 1794 & Ann Catlow. She apppears on the 1841 census as Peggy. Assuming her address at the time of her marriage (1850) was Northbank, this is the same address as several of John & Ann's children on the 1851 census. By the 1881 census Thomas's wife is named as Ellen. There is a death for Margaret Procter (aged 50) in 1872. Then a marriage in 1873 between Thomas PROCTER and Ellen LEAVER. The only Ellen Leaver I can find of the right age (b 1832 according to the 1881 census) is Elling - daughter of John 1794 and Ann Catlow. Which would make her Margaret Leaver's sister |
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| Author: | portia [ Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Proctor / Procter |
After much head-scratching I'm back to believing the Betty Leaver who married a Proctor was the daughter of John 1794 & An Catlow Betty, daur of John Leaver & Mary Jackson, married Lawrence Emmett so it can't be her. Betty, daur of William & Betty, married a Kippax so it can't be her. Betty, daur of John Leaver & Ann Catlow, is the only one left of the right age. Apart from that, I believe as I say that another of John & Ann's daughters (Margaret) married Thomas Proctor. She also described her father's occupation as farmer. Maybe he did both or maybe the title farmer was a bit broad? My brain hurts. I will forebear my usual comments about the plethora of John Leavers. Too much glass in my house. |
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