Gloria is definitely a nutter
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| Author: | greywolfb [ Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | John & Grace Catlow ? |
Does anyone know what happenned to this family :- 1881 Census RG11, Folio 4152, 184 and 185, Page 35 (99) 2 Garstang Street, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire. Henry CATLOW ... Lodger ... M (69) ... Born in Burnley, Lancashire, England ... Weaver Elizabeth Ann GIBSON ... Boarder ... W (36)... Born in Burnley, Lancashire, England ... Weaver John CATLOW ... Head (44)... Born in Burnley, Lancashire, England ... Weaver (C) Grace CATLOW ... Wife ... M ... (30) ... Born in Burnley, Lancashire, England ... Weaver (C) Martha PROCTER ... Daur.... U ... (12) ... Burnley, Lancashire, England ... Weaver Grace Procter was my Great Great Grandmother and Martha is my Grandmothers sister. I have drawn a blank on them in the 1891 census Bryan |
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| Author: | Mel [ Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Hi Bryan, welcome to the site. This is the closest match I can find in 1891 and, going off the info provided above, I am inclined to think it is the right Grace. 1891 RG12/3367 folio 120 pg 17 2 Whittaker Street, Habergham Eaves John Catlow Head M 54 Cotton weaver b. Burnley Grace Proctor Boarder S 40 cotton weaver b.Burnley ? Proctor Boarder S 20 Cotton weaver b.Burnley Florence Procter Dau S 5 b.Burnley Ann ?croft Servant S 26 Domestic servant b. Askill Mary A ?croft Daur S 8m b.Burnley |
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| Author: | greywolfb [ Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Thanks Mel, looks good to me also Bryan |
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| Author: | Mel [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
No problem Bryan. Grace was indexed as Pradder! Doesn't it make you wonder what the enumerator was told or why they were told such differing information. |
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| Author: | greywolfb [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Mel, Where did you get the info from. I have looked on Ancestry.com and it won't find it. Bryan |
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| Author: | Mel [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
It was ancestry.co.uk. I always use the old search method, do not like the new at all. I went straight to the 1891 search page and put Grace in for the first name. Selected Lancashire from the 'county' dropdown list. 1851 +/-2 for the birth year and hit search. 346 results and Grace Prader is on the 3rd page of the results (if you view 50 per page) Grace Prader abt 1851 Burnley, Lancashire, England Boarder Habergham Eaves, Lancashire |
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| Author: | greywolfb [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Mel, Found them (under Padder) It all fits nicely, the 3rd name down is Sophia Proctor, My Great Grandmother (just before she married William Ashton) this is a link to my page and as you see all looking good. http://www.bhashton.com/graceprocterfamily.htm I do know that one of the family went to America, not sure which one but thats next. Thanks again Bryan |
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| Author: | Mel [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Illegitimate children were quite taboo in years gone by weren't they. |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
i found these on the Ellis Island site, they may be worth a closer look. Name Town of origin year age 1. Barbara Proctor Burnley, England 1911 42 2. Charlotte Ellen Proctor Burnley, England 1912 52 3. Evelyne Proctor Burnley, England 1919 18 4. Florrie Proctor Burnley, England 1913 26 5. Harold Proctor Burnley, England 1910 23 6. Henry Proctor Burnley 1893 29 7. Herbert Proctor Burnley, Emgland 1914 18 8. Herbert Proctor Burnley, England 1911 5 9. James Proctor Burnley, England 1912 52 10. Jessie Proctor Burnley, England 1920 36 11. Margaret Alice Proctor Burnley, England 1919 52 |
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| Author: | greywolfb [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Hello Gloria, I got an email off Sue last year regarding Wade Procter. I quote :- Bryan , contact Gloria on oneguyfrom barlick. Why not register it is free. Anyway she says Wade Senior was living with her family in 1861 census QUOTE Sue, your Wade Proctor (1795) in 1861 census is living with the brother and family of my 3xgt grandfather !!!!! he is down as father-in-law. Gloria Wade was my 4th Great Grandfather :- http://www.bhashton.com/wadeprocterfamily.htm You must be one of the "Nutters" then ?? I actually found a Wade Procter on Facebook, I wrote to him and he answered once and that was it, but I may pester him some more Thanks for the Ellis island stuff. Bryan |
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| Author: | Mel [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Gloria is definitely a nutter
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| Author: | Gloria [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
I am one of the Kippaxs although I do have Nutters that come in through the Brierleys. 1861 Briercliffe, Wade is father-in-law, so obviously Alice's father, it would appear James was born out of wedlock and kept her maiden name. William Kippax 23 Alice Kippax 25 James Proctor 4 Mary Kippax 8 Mo Wade Proctor 66 Living at Haggate. |
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| Author: | Gloria [ Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: John & Grace Catlow ? |
Bryan, I have just looked at your tree. William Kippax's father John was the brother of James my 3Xgt grandfather. I had thought it was William himself, so I am wrong there. John and James' parents were Joshua and Sarah/Sally (Jackson) Kippax. You can see my Kippax tree on the home page of this site. |
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